Zoltan Joo gives us breeders names who have health problems with their havanese

[eurobich]

If any of these breeders are offended I cant blame you, we have been since the day we met him.

Dear ,
I told for Tunde that you asked me about Pillowtalk.
We checked her red/sable puppies and Tunde told we have same male puppy from Jasper and Odri.
What do you would like? Do you looking for a new male or female puppy?
I just tell you this because our male puppy would be good to*****.Better as the Pillowtalk, who have some cataractand patella problem.
But, this is just a possibility.

Have a nice weekend you too.
With love,
Zoltan and Tunde
________________________________________________________Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 2:06 PM

We think the best, most important thing is the health of dogs.
Possible, your dog never will get BOB, but he will make good, beautiful and healthy puppies.
Unfortunately, have not perfect dog and have some big or smaller fault in all dog.
I think if he keeps his tail open always (at home too) this is the smallest fault in the Havanese breed in the US.
Unfortunately, lots of Champion dogs like Honesty and Pillowtalks make/made terrible and sick puppies. We know this exactly. We have lots of contact and this is just a small world of Havanese breeders.
On Thu, 5/14/09, Zoltán <siegreichkennel@freemail.hu> wrote:
Dear *****,
I told for Tunde that you asked me about Pillowtalk.
We checked her red/sable puppies and Tunde told we have same male puppy from Jasper and Odri.
What do you would like? Do you looking for a new male or female puppy?
I just tell you this because our male puppy would be good to Por Vida.Better as the Pillowtalk, who have some cataractand patella problem.
But, this is just a possibility.

From: Zoltan Joo <siegreichkennel@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 10:01:20 PM
Subject:

Hi ****

I will never breed the male from Christa Jumpy Clown. He has a very, very bad front. I have had him x-ray, and he have pre closing of the groth plate in the front legs. The Ulna stop growing and the radius kept growing. I send you a picture so you can see him wet. Since this is genetic, I will never breed him. I love he´s colour too, and he have a wonderful father, Ilkley Moor Prince Charming…But helth is the most important.
We do not have any info yet about this problem of Sanillan, but the father is PILLOWTALK'S BRUMM BEAR
Why choose you these dogs for my ***** Dou you want dark, black color puppies or you have another reason?

If we have to choice one from these two dogs then we would suggest your first mind US CH Mike-Mar's Most Wanted

http://www.havanesegallery.hu/pair_en.ph...&id2=23544

Because behind this male have much better quality parents and grand parents. But we do not like this male, because we worry about the American dogs. We do not suggest you for *****your second choose dog B F'S DARK KNIGHT BANDITA, because his background bloodlines is terrible. His mother CHHEARTLAND BF'S MYSTIC EBONY come from very closest inbreeding (half brother and sister).

This can make lots of health genetic problem!!!

The other thing is why we do not suggest him that this bloodline includes lots of very short legs dogs. This is a big problem what the all reputable breeders try to filter from the breeding work. These types of Havanese can bring the chataract problems.Like Vom salzetal.

If you check her pedigree on the "havanesegallery" you will see the Pillowtalk's kennel made lots of very close inbreeding and she made this problem more times. http://www.havanesegallery.hu/pedigree.php? This is the possible reason for the most genetic problems. Did you know they have a PRA dog in Finland now? She have been diagnosed PRA from one vet. and katarakt from one other. In finland they always take two separat vet who do exam…then they wait 6 mounts and do it again.

This is the pedigree

http://jalostus.kennelliitto.fi/frmKoira...&R=250With love, Zoltan and Tunde

[CJxxBuster]

Bad bad man

[dingoesatemybaby]

Scary!

[eurobich]

we have lots more from his emails he left on my comp when I was working and he went onto it without asking, the kids tell me now that as soon as I left the house he came in and spent hours on my comp on the net , he never once helped his wife look after their dogs or interact with any of them , but when he heard my car come back he left the comp and went outside, he then pretended he had been busy washing dogs all day ...
He said
Shiela Walkers dogs are huge and not good examples of havanese too close the inbreeding
Jill Richards dogs are bloody awful and that chocolate one is very unhealthy
Lynda Reads dogs are full of matts and not so good type
Kath Wilson dogs full of tatts and she very lucky to win because she have no competition
MY Vida is a crazy dog unhealthy because the Danish dog is from inbreeding and pedigree is terrible (yes Vida did bite him and his wife-they were scared of him-well done vida who passed all his health tests)
Dolcissimo Rocco my Caesar was a mixed dog not full bolognese and the pedigree is a lie , he wouldnt win against Buksi--He DID several times)
Wendy Allenby dogs are shit with cataracts
Meta von hout Mr Beatle glad you didnt mate with him he produces many poor shit puppies in europe, Tunde nods head yes I saw them. Her Jack who is a lovely boy in my opinion, " I dont like, he has the short legs and will have the cataract and he is not good dog, she wins because no competition for the Cruft"

If any of these breeders are offended I cant blame you, we have been since the day we met him.

advice do not use a Siegreich x Siegreich with less than 5 gens between them risks of the following recorded faults from owners around the World:
Slipping patella bilateral
Eye disorders (opacities )and cataracts
Cleft palate
Short Haired Coats
Poor Pigmentation
Orthopaedic issues in elbows and shoulders

[CJxxBuster]

oh i am suprised my dogs arnt there

[eurobich]

well he did say that linus the danish boy has madness in his backlines, this manis so jealous of those who dont lie and cheat .
well ZOLTAN JOO THE DOG U BRED SIEGREICH TIRA IS RECOVERING FROM HER FIRST OF MANY OPS NEEDED DUE TO YOUR PISS POOR BREEDING AND CRUEL PRACTICES.

[smartiepants9]

Well said Karen, it is about time someone was able to do something about this awful man!!!

[Sarah L]

Why don't the authorities crack down on him? Next Monday there is a program on Panorama that goes behind the scenes at vets.

[eurobich]

I have it from a good source that his plans have been put to STOP as the authorities have tracked him down. For how long I dont know but he is now transferring dogs to his wifes maiden name Tubde Belanyi , at least I know some damage has hit its target , but I would like to add I am not doing this to upset him, quite the contrary its to protect his dogs and those people who will buy them.

[daffodiluk]

Good on you Karen, I am sure you have the support of all members of EB even those of us that have Frise not havanese. Hope the little girl is recovering well from her op. Val xx

[smartiepants9]

Well done Karen I personally would like to see him strung up!!! and as you know I am not a violent person ;-P